It is 1:57 am EST. Tim and I were going to go out for a bit tonight, but instead caught the news around 10:30pm and watched 3 hours of coverage. All the reports contradict each other. One says Saddam was humble and quiet, the other says he was defiant until the end. Talking points are on the tongue tips of all who are being interviewed. I haven't seen any pictures of the hanging, but they are supposedly coming. I'm sure that will calm the streets of Iraq.
I think the execution of Saddam is going to prove anti-climatic for President Bush. 3,000 American lives for this? For what? How does this make us safer? It doesn't. My fear is we created a martyr.
not sure what the rumsfeld thing has to do with anything unless you're implying that ronald reagan and don rumsfeld were at one point actively involved in plots against the interests of u.s. security.
bill clinton and jimmy carter were "famously" photographed with yasser arafat and fidel castro several times. were they accomplice to terror in the middle east and murder of cuban dissidents?
my guess - you're not really sure what you're implying about the rumsfeld photo.
for the first time in world history, a murderous dicatator has been tried, convicted and executed by a legal system composed of the citizenry he once terrorized and this is the best you can do?
I thought about Kyle's point also - which is: at the time of the crimes against humanity that Hussein was executed for, The USA was allied with him (against Iran)...whats more the weapons he used at this time (on the Kurds for example) was sold to him by the USA.
Anon- you can say anthing about this tangled web of international intrigue...but implications of the US/Iraq arrangement of that era are worthy of some thought at least.
As far as the actual execution - he was a dead man from the very moment that he was captured - the execution will only be used as provocative fodder by some mainiacs. It probably would have been better at this critical moment in history (possible turning point in Iraq war ===> Bush's "new" approach) to just keep him on ice. The Hirohito arrangement, Sept 1, 1945..was an example of doing no further exacerbation of the enemy.
I like what Tony Hendra said: "Former American Puppet executed by Current American Puppets."
What does this execution do? Will it stop the violence or increase it? And who is now the target of this violence? I think we all know the answer and if you're naive or deluding yourself, you'll believe this was a solution to something or that Americans will receive more support in Iraq. Get real. What was the harm in letting him rot in prison?
Big..Really BIG news events are timed to break on Fri/Sat morn if you(Bush Admin) DONT want much coverage. Thats what a former Bush admin member told the press.
i'm sorry. i tried to read hendra's rubbish and the rest of your post but all i was distracted by this strange mix of music from the twilight zone and x-files themes.
i love how people like anon. have such a hard time trying to come to grip with the truth. they'd rather wrap themselves up in the flag and call anyone who disagrees with the fairy tail of the "always right US" haters. tim
hey, anyone interested - if you do a video search on google for "saddam hanged" you can see the footage now. "Former American Puppet executed by Current American Puppets." - best quote ever. thanks terra. tim
1.) saddam hussein met justice at the hands of iraqis after a trial and conviction by the citizens of iraq.
2.) the world is a better place now that one of its most brutal dictators is not only out of power, but dead.
by the way, i would add that franklin delano roosevelt and winston churchill were photographed several times with josef stalin, murderer of millions. does that make any kind of statement that any of you would care to offer comments on?
U.S. interests change and the U.S. media has a responsibility to include our country's role in Saddam Hussein's rise to and abuse of power. History matters and it is irresponsible to gloss over it.
Petey, I was also thinking about how this is going to play out internationally. My get reaction was, "Okay, we killed him. Now what?" Sadly, Saddam's execution will be juxtaposed against the 3,000th U.S. soldier dying in Iraq in the next couple days. I don't see how any rational American who puts the interests of their nation before the political interests of their party can think this mission in Iraq has been worth the price.
10-4 Kyle. My gut tells me that we should have kept him on ice. If the IED attacks flare up as a result of the execution backlash, our troops will certainly tell you that we should have just iced him.
I will let you know in next few weeks what I hear. (Unclassified, of course)
1) Nice talking point. The trial was conducted in the green zone. What is this "citizens of Iraq" nonsense? Do you know something about a jury that no one else does?
2) The world is a better place? (back handed slap to the face)
They met with Stalin to discuss summit diplomacy in Teheran and Yalta. Peace man. Rumsfeld went to Iraq to discuss our country arming Saddam to fight Iran. Saddam used those weapons we hooked him up with on his own people. It seems to me that is why Saddam was convicted of a relatively small crime prior to Rumsfeld's visit as opposed to the massive genocide he committed after.
This is a sad, mercenary thought - but maybe Hussein should have just covertly recd a "pineapple" surprise in that hole that they found him in - thus ending this dog/pony show episode.
& Maybe, but I have no sure idea, his abrupt execution, fits into someones "plan"...if its Bush's ===> I have grave concerns
I wouldnt say that. Rumsfeld was just a frontman for the Bush Admin's terrible policies. Rummy was a PNAC shill...I think he is regretting supporting that boondoggle
For that matter Bush Admin is the front for the PNAC
Maybe the last comment illustrates : One good hangin deserves another
saddam hussein's trial was conducted according to the laws established by an elected iraqi government under the iraqi constitution ratified less than three years ago by a direct vote of the iraqi people. hence, saddam hussein was tried, convicted and executed by the citizens of iraq. aren't you a political science major or something like that?
if you do not agree that the world is better off without saddam hussein in power, there is likely nothing i could say to persuade you so i won't bother.
on the matter of my noting carter's and clinton's being photographed with castro and arafat and fdr and churchill being photographed with stalin, of course i know that's an absurd comparison. that's why i made it.
in fact, it's almost as absurd as the notion that don rumsfeld is somehow complicit in hussein's crimes against humanity in his capacity as a representative of the u.s. government on a trip to baghdad in 1983. the fundamental question is whether or not you believe this country is and has been a force for good on this planet. in human rights, in spreading freedom, in establishing justice. you seem to start with the premise that ronald reagan's and donald rumsfeld's actions in the 1980's (whatever specific items you allude to) were for purposes other than securing some kind of benefit for our country and, by extension, securing more peace in the world.
and before you spout off about how reagan and rumsfeld and whomever else you want to throw into the mix about supposed "war crimes" involved with reagan's policies toward the middle east, consider first whether or not there may have been strategic reasons in the interest of our nation's security for these policies to have been implemented.
is there ever any occasion or issue related to questions of war and peace on which your first instinct is not to identify the united states as the bad guy or original source of conflict?
To anyone who actually delusionally thinks this war and/or Saddam's execution will benefit Iraq or the US should stop sniffing the PNAC glue immediately. This war and execution benefits one and only one nation: Iran.... and God knows that is the nation we want to hand gifts to, huh? Iran stands to win BIG... and all of Iraq (except for the wingnut factions that love this carnage and civil war) stands to lose BIG. And we Americans get to live with the knowledge that we not only paid for the destruction of Iraq and the lives of the Iraqi people, but that our own soldiers lost their lives and limbs to crown the Iranian mullahs the new leaders of Iraq. Congratulations BushCo! And you were able to execute Saddam, too? Bravo! You killed a guy (via a kangaroo court) who had absolutely nothing to do w/ Sept 11th & was Rummy's best buddy during the Ray-Gun & Bush yrs... soooo, uh... when do get around to finding and bringing to justice Osama and/or the REAL folks who attacked us on 9/11? Oops... there I go again w/those inconvenient facts. But if you were to ask BushCo Homeland Security twit Frances Townsend, she'd vomit out this inexplicable spew, just as she did on Thursday to CNN's Ed Henry while he was sitting in for Wolf Blitzer on The Situation Room: "Capturing bin Laden is a success that just hasn't happened yet." Yeah. You read that right... sigh...
Tina, Exactly, exactly...if you didnt sign your name to your comment, I would have thought that I wrote it.
My Lebanese friend told me the exact same thing- that only Iran would benefit. Are we absolutely NUTS to act in our enemy's great interest? Unfortunately, thats what the idiotic PNAC script called for and a fool of a President executed it.
Now back to the real enemy: DeeDeeDee....YO...its Saudi Arabia - Bush's kin.
Tina, would I like to have beer & conversation with you!
on question 2, far too early to say. i'm not foolish or naive enough to look at iraq and say things are peachy, but it's too soon to make that judgment definintively. what if twenty years from now iraq is a democratic ally in the middle east in the israel/kuwait mold? 3,000 dead americans is a tragedy any way you slice it, but do you believe it's any more tragic than the 60,000 that died in one day at normandy when americans invaded france? do you think that maybe some americans objected to the millions of dollars that were spent rebuilding germany or that there were americans who believed the u.s. commitment to unconditionally provide for japan's national defense in the decades that followed world war 2 was too costly/ambitious?
my critique is that it seems you're lacking proper historical perspective. and the undeniable truth is that if bush's vision for the middle east comes to fruition - a concept very much alive since the most inconvenient truth (a little joke for you) of all is that five years removed from 2001 we have had not one subsequent attack on u.s. soil and two of the world's most readily identifiable state sponsors of terrorism have been destroyed and replaced with democracies - you and others will have a lot of explaining to do.
it will be as laughable as when john kerry, who cut his foreign policy teeth in the u.s. senate opposing ronald reagan's military budgets and anti-soviet policies, told a campaign audience about how "we" won the cold war.
Petey: If I weren't currently gestating my young, I might take you up on that beer. But given my recent pregnancy cravings, I certainly wouldn't mind enjoying one of those spiffy Arrested Development Saddam cupcakes while discussing the state of the world's affairs.
Tina, I read some of your Blue..Blog and have put it on my reading list.
I hope you are well and..... take good care of your kids. Mine are grown up.... one is a HS Teacher in Akron and the other has a restaurant in Middlefield, Ohio.
Happy New Year and new child.
We just want a decent world for them after all
I always taught them the truth (avoid propaganda) as I am sure you do.
anon, Grow a pair and use a name! And, if you have issues you'd like "addressed" then go start your own blog. We write about what is on our minds. You can write about what is on yours.
In the New Year, may your right hand always be stretched out in friendship, but never in want. ~ Traditional Irish toast
Stir the eggnog, lift the toddy, Happy New Year, everybody. ~ Phyllis McGinley
Here's to us all, God bless us every one! ~ from Charles Dickens’ A Christmas Carol
Here's a toast to the future, A toast to the past, And a toast to our friends, far and near. May the future be pleasant; The past a bright dream; May our friends remain faithful and dear. ~ Anonymous
Cheers to you, Cheers to me, Have a Happy New Year’s Eve!
New Year’s Quotes
For last year's words belong to last year's language And next year's words await another voice. And to make an end is to make a beginning. ~ T.S. Eliot
Each age has deemed the new-born year The fittest time for festal cheer. ~ Sir Walter Scott
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing. ~ Abraham Lincoln
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Ring out the old, ring in the new, Ring, happy bells, across the snow: The year is going, let him go; Ring out the false, ring in the true. ~ Lord Alfred Tennyson
My personal New Years wishes:
For Pres Bush- A Brain and the wisdom to use it
Chuck,Terra,Kyle, Robert: Continued guts to face off against propagandists
Soldiers, Seabees, Seals, Marines, Airmen: Safe return to your families ASAP (& the wish for Bush)
American Youth that give a shit
Jesus coming to fundamentalists in their dreams...to KICK IN THEIR ASSES!
this anonymous person is a clown. everyone should quit wasting their time on his absurd statements. the trial was a joke. Bush & Company were friends with Saddam AFTER THE MURDERS he was convicted for - and they KNEW he killed all those people. The fact that this is NEVER mentioned is a total disgrace and TOTALLY DISMISSES the notion of a "liberal" media.
and this anonymous person is just spewing a bunch of nonsensical rhetoric. that is what he does. and that is why he remains anonymous - because he is embarrassing.
now, all that said, if anyone deserves to die, then saddam is a great candidate, so whatever. have a cupcake if you are pro-death penalty, i suppose.
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It is 1:57 am EST. Tim and I were going to go out for a bit tonight, but instead caught the news around 10:30pm and watched 3 hours of coverage. All the reports contradict each other. One says Saddam was humble and quiet, the other says he was defiant until the end. Talking points are on the tongue tips of all who are being interviewed. I haven't seen any pictures of the hanging, but they are supposedly coming. I'm sure that will calm the streets of Iraq.
Tim and I were discussing how Saddam was convicted of crimes he committed in 1982, but in December of 1983, special envoy for President Reagan Donald Rumsfeld visited Baghdad and was famously photographed shaking hands with Saddam Where is that photograph in the coverage?
I think the execution of Saddam is going to prove anti-climatic for President Bush. 3,000 American lives for this? For what? How does this make us safer? It doesn't. My fear is we created a martyr.
*The martyr part is going to come when Saddam is perceived as defiant against the U.S. until the end.
not sure what the rumsfeld thing has to do with anything unless you're implying that ronald reagan and don rumsfeld were at one point actively involved in plots against the interests of u.s. security.
bill clinton and jimmy carter were "famously" photographed with yasser arafat and fidel castro several times. were they accomplice to terror in the middle east and murder of cuban dissidents?
my guess - you're not really sure what you're implying about the rumsfeld photo.
for the first time in world history, a murderous dicatator has been tried, convicted and executed by a legal system composed of the citizenry he once terrorized and this is the best you can do?
come on, kyle.
I thought about Kyle's point also - which is: at the time of the crimes against humanity that Hussein was executed for, The USA was allied with him (against Iran)...whats more the weapons he used at this time (on the Kurds for example) was sold to him by the USA.
Anon- you can say anthing about this tangled web of international intrigue...but implications of the US/Iraq arrangement of that era are worthy of some thought at least.
As far as the actual execution - he was a dead man from the very moment that he was captured - the execution will only be used as provocative fodder by some mainiacs. It probably would have been better at this critical moment in history (possible turning point in Iraq war ===> Bush's "new" approach) to just keep him on ice. The Hirohito arrangement, Sept 1, 1945..was an example of doing no further exacerbation of the enemy.
I surmise that the abrupt execution at this time, was part of a - Throw the Baathist/Sunni to the Shia Lions deal.
I like what Tony Hendra said: "Former American Puppet executed by Current American Puppets."
What does this execution do? Will it stop the violence or increase it? And who is now the target of this violence? I think we all know the answer and if you're naive or deluding yourself, you'll believe this was a solution to something or that Americans will receive more support in Iraq. Get real. What was the harm in letting him rot in prison?
Terra, In the worst sense, This execution may playout on the world stage, not in the USA's favor...as you say.
Maybe something like this:
Iranaian President: "Why should I go along with USA when, in a few years, they will just scapegoat me and hung my shiite ass?"
Ya, I agree - it would not have hurt to keep hussein on ice for a while longer.
Whoopee, cant wait to hear what FAUX network and Rush Limberger say about it
Some opinions that I will like to hear- James Baker, General Powell, Pres Carter, what Pres Ford's view was...????
How about Ann Coulter who was massively dissapointed that they didnt hang him by his cojones
One more thing:
Big..Really BIG news events are timed to break on Fri/Sat morn if you(Bush Admin) DONT want much coverage. Thats what a former Bush admin member told the press.
i'm sorry. i tried to read hendra's rubbish and the rest of your post but all i was distracted by this strange mix of music from the twilight zone and x-files themes.
you're crazy.
i love how people like anon. have such a hard time trying to come to grip with the truth. they'd rather wrap themselves up in the flag and call anyone who disagrees with the fairy tail of the "always right US" haters.
tim
hey,
anyone interested - if you do a video search on google for "saddam hanged" you can see the footage now.
"Former American Puppet executed by Current American Puppets."
- best quote ever. thanks terra.
tim
what's the truth tim?
what is untrue about these statements?
1.) saddam hussein met justice at the hands of iraqis after a trial and conviction by the citizens of iraq.
2.) the world is a better place now that one of its most brutal dictators is not only out of power, but dead.
by the way, i would add that franklin delano roosevelt and winston churchill were photographed several times with josef stalin, murderer of millions. does that make any kind of statement that any of you would care to offer comments on?
U.S. interests change and the U.S. media has a responsibility to include our country's role in Saddam Hussein's rise to and abuse of power. History matters and it is irresponsible to gloss over it.
Petey, I was also thinking about how this is going to play out internationally. My get reaction was, "Okay, we killed him. Now what?" Sadly, Saddam's execution will be juxtaposed against the 3,000th U.S. soldier dying in Iraq in the next couple days. I don't see how any rational American who puts the interests of their nation before the political interests of their party can think this mission in Iraq has been worth the price.
That comment comparing FDR , Churchill with Stalin has about as much relevance as a fart in a tornado
10-4 Kyle.
My gut tells me that we should have kept him on ice. If the IED attacks flare up as a result of the execution backlash, our troops will certainly tell you that we should have just iced him.
I will let you know in next few weeks what I hear. (Unclassified, of course)
Terra, = (Puppet) = Quote of the Year
Bravo Zulu
1) Nice talking point. The trial was conducted in the green zone. What is this "citizens of Iraq" nonsense? Do you know something about a jury that no one else does?
2) The world is a better place? (back handed slap to the face)
They met with Stalin to discuss summit diplomacy in Teheran and Yalta. Peace man. Rumsfeld went to Iraq to discuss our country arming Saddam to fight Iran. Saddam used those weapons we hooked him up with on his own people. It seems to me that is why Saddam was convicted of a relatively small crime prior to Rumsfeld's visit as opposed to the massive genocide he committed after.
You folks that cling to the thread of "WIN" in Iraq should smell the coffee.
Nobody is going to win there - consequently everbody has already lost because this monster will consume for years and years.
You know , when a Naval ship is hit - they go into "Damage Control"...they dont just ignore the fact that they have been compromised.
Coffee my friends, I am buying
This is a sad, mercenary thought - but maybe Hussein should have just covertly recd a "pineapple" surprise in that hole that they found him in - thus ending this dog/pony show episode.
& Maybe, but I have no sure idea, his abrupt execution, fits into someones "plan"...if its Bush's ===> I have grave concerns
Donald Rumsfeld should be executed
I wouldnt say that. Rumsfeld was just a frontman for the Bush Admin's terrible policies. Rummy was a PNAC shill...I think he is regretting supporting that boondoggle
For that matter Bush Admin is the front for the PNAC
Maybe the last comment illustrates : One good hangin deserves another
saddam hussein's trial was conducted according to the laws established by an elected iraqi government under the iraqi constitution ratified less than three years ago by a direct vote of the iraqi people. hence, saddam hussein was tried, convicted and executed by the citizens of iraq. aren't you a political science major or something like that?
if you do not agree that the world is better off without saddam hussein in power, there is likely nothing i could say to persuade you so i won't bother.
on the matter of my noting carter's and clinton's being photographed with castro and arafat and fdr and churchill being photographed with stalin, of course i know that's an absurd comparison. that's why i made it.
in fact, it's almost as absurd as the notion that don rumsfeld is somehow complicit in hussein's crimes against humanity in his capacity as a representative of the u.s. government on a trip to baghdad in 1983. the fundamental question is whether or not you believe this country is and has been a force for good on this planet. in human rights, in spreading freedom, in establishing justice. you seem to start with the premise that ronald reagan's and donald rumsfeld's actions in the 1980's (whatever specific items you allude to) were for purposes other than securing some kind of benefit for our country and, by extension, securing more peace in the world.
and before you spout off about how reagan and rumsfeld and whomever else you want to throw into the mix about supposed "war crimes" involved with reagan's policies toward the middle east, consider first whether or not there may have been strategic reasons in the interest of our nation's security for these policies to have been implemented.
is there ever any occasion or issue related to questions of war and peace on which your first instinct is not to identify the united states as the bad guy or original source of conflict?
Ya, thats it...certainly,we all write all these blogs because we HATE our Country
Question 1: Is the world is better off without Saddam Hussein in power? (tunnel vision) Answer: Yes
Question 2: Is the U.S. better off by our invasion of Iraq? (big picture) Answer: No
In my opinion, you are viewing Saddam's execution in a vacuum. You focus on question #1 and I focus on question #2.
To anyone who actually delusionally thinks this war and/or Saddam's execution will benefit Iraq or the US should stop sniffing the PNAC glue immediately. This war and execution benefits one and only one nation: Iran.... and God knows that is the nation we want to hand gifts to, huh?
Iran stands to win BIG... and all of Iraq (except for the wingnut factions that love this carnage and civil war) stands to lose BIG. And we Americans get to live with the knowledge that we not only paid for the destruction of Iraq and the lives of the Iraqi people, but that our own soldiers lost their lives and limbs to crown the Iranian mullahs the new leaders of Iraq. Congratulations BushCo! And you were able to execute Saddam, too? Bravo! You killed a guy (via a kangaroo court) who had absolutely nothing to do w/ Sept 11th & was Rummy's best buddy during the Ray-Gun & Bush yrs... soooo, uh... when do get around to finding and bringing to justice Osama and/or the REAL folks who attacked us on 9/11? Oops... there I go again w/those inconvenient facts. But if you were to ask BushCo Homeland Security twit Frances Townsend, she'd vomit out this inexplicable spew, just as she did on Thursday to CNN's Ed Henry while he was sitting in for Wolf Blitzer on The Situation Room: "Capturing bin Laden is a success that just hasn't happened yet." Yeah. You read that right... sigh...
Tina, Exactly, exactly...if you didnt sign your name to your comment, I would have thought that I wrote it.
My Lebanese friend told me the exact same thing- that only Iran would benefit. Are we absolutely NUTS to act in our enemy's great interest? Unfortunately, thats what the idiotic PNAC script called for and a fool of a President executed it.
Now back to the real enemy: DeeDeeDee....YO...its Saudi Arabia - Bush's kin.
Tina, would I like to have beer & conversation with you!
Hussein 5 minutes before execution:
"This is a setup - I was Framed"
The Setup
Watch this and see if you believe otherwise.
kyle,
looks like we agree on question 1.
on question 2, far too early to say. i'm not foolish or naive enough to look at iraq and say things are peachy, but it's too soon to make that judgment definintively. what if twenty years from now iraq is a democratic ally in the middle east in the israel/kuwait mold? 3,000 dead americans is a tragedy any way you slice it, but do you believe it's any more tragic than the 60,000 that died in one day at normandy when americans invaded france? do you think that maybe some americans objected to the millions of dollars that were spent rebuilding germany or that there were americans who believed the u.s. commitment to unconditionally provide for japan's national defense in the decades that followed world war 2 was too costly/ambitious?
my critique is that it seems you're lacking proper historical perspective. and the undeniable truth is that if bush's vision for the middle east comes to fruition - a concept very much alive since the most inconvenient truth (a little joke for you) of all is that five years removed from 2001 we have had not one subsequent attack on u.s. soil and two of the world's most readily identifiable state sponsors of terrorism have been destroyed and replaced with democracies - you and others will have a lot of explaining to do.
it will be as laughable as when john kerry, who cut his foreign policy teeth in the u.s. senate opposing ronald reagan's military budgets and anti-soviet policies, told a campaign audience about how "we" won the cold war.
Petey: If I weren't currently gestating my young, I might take you up on that beer.
But given my recent pregnancy cravings, I certainly wouldn't mind enjoying one of those spiffy Arrested Development Saddam cupcakes while discussing the state of the world's affairs.
John Conyers, reprimanded for requiring public employees to perform campaign work.
Will this matter be addressed?
Tina, I read some of your Blue..Blog and have put it on my reading list.
I hope you are well and..... take good care of your kids. Mine are grown up.... one is a HS Teacher in Akron and the other has a restaurant in Middlefield, Ohio.
Happy New Year and new child.
We just want a decent world for them after all
I always taught them the truth (avoid propaganda) as I am sure you do.
anon, Grow a pair and use a name! And, if you have issues you'd like "addressed" then go start your own blog. We write about what is on our minds. You can write about what is on yours.
New Year’s Toasts
In the New Year, may your right hand always be stretched out in friendship, but never in want. ~ Traditional Irish toast
Stir the eggnog, lift the toddy, Happy New Year, everybody. ~ Phyllis McGinley
Here's to us all, God bless us every one! ~ from Charles Dickens’ A Christmas Carol
Here's a toast to the future, A toast to the past, And a toast to our friends, far and near. May the future be pleasant; The past a bright dream; May our friends remain faithful and dear. ~ Anonymous
Cheers to you, Cheers to me, Have a Happy New Year’s Eve!
New Year’s Quotes
For last year's words belong to last year's language And next year's words await another voice. And to make an end is to make a beginning. ~ T.S. Eliot
Each age has deemed the new-born year The fittest time for festal cheer. ~ Sir Walter Scott
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing. ~ Abraham Lincoln
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Ring out the old, ring in the new, Ring, happy bells, across the snow: The year is going, let him go; Ring out the false, ring in the true. ~ Lord Alfred Tennyson
My personal New Years wishes:
For Pres Bush- A Brain and the wisdom to use it
Chuck,Terra,Kyle, Robert: Continued guts to face off against propagandists
Soldiers, Seabees, Seals, Marines, Airmen: Safe return to your families ASAP (& the wish for Bush)
American Youth that give a shit
Jesus coming to fundamentalists in their dreams...to KICK IN THEIR ASSES!
Allah (Same As above to) Moslem Extreemists
Best of New Year to all who care
this anonymous person is a clown. everyone should quit wasting their time on his absurd statements. the trial was a joke. Bush & Company were friends with Saddam AFTER THE MURDERS he was convicted for - and they KNEW he killed all those people. The fact that this is NEVER mentioned is a total disgrace and TOTALLY DISMISSES the notion of a "liberal" media.
and this anonymous person is just spewing a bunch of nonsensical rhetoric. that is what he does. and that is why he remains anonymous - because he is embarrassing.
now, all that said, if anyone deserves to die, then saddam is a great candidate, so whatever. have a cupcake if you are pro-death penalty, i suppose.
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