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The Good, The Bad, And The Pork
The Good: House Democrats passed a bill that will bring an end to Bush's disastrous Iraq war.
The Bad: The bill still allows this disastrous war to continue for another year and a half.
The Ugly: The bill provides for $124 billion in new spending. About $111 billion is for Iraq/terrorism stuff. The remaining $13 billion is for non-Iraq/domestic spending. $6.4 billion to Katrina-related stuff is fine with me, which I will not question, because they got to get what they can, whenever/however they can. However, the rest is mostly for agricultural subsidies - I hate it.
Lets be clear, the Republicans did the same thing in past authorization bills. In fact, their pork-barrel politics was the worst this country has ever seen. However, that does not excuse Democrats from doing this, especially when they know every right-winger is going to go insane on this. The Republicans forget how they were exponentially worse in their spending, yet they are going to every media outlet yelling this.
House Leader, Steny Hoyer defended the bill in an editorial:
The Bad: The bill still allows this disastrous war to continue for another year and a half.
The Ugly: The bill provides for $124 billion in new spending. About $111 billion is for Iraq/terrorism stuff. The remaining $13 billion is for non-Iraq/domestic spending. $6.4 billion to Katrina-related stuff is fine with me, which I will not question, because they got to get what they can, whenever/however they can. However, the rest is mostly for agricultural subsidies - I hate it.
Lets be clear, the Republicans did the same thing in past authorization bills. In fact, their pork-barrel politics was the worst this country has ever seen. However, that does not excuse Democrats from doing this, especially when they know every right-winger is going to go insane on this. The Republicans forget how they were exponentially worse in their spending, yet they are going to every media outlet yelling this.House Leader, Steny Hoyer defended the bill in an editorial:
"First of all, it must be noted that this legislation is absolutely transparent. Members and the public have had a week to examine it. In addition, no earmarks - specific amounts directed to specific projects or entities - are included. And, much of the funding has been authorized during previous Republican congresses and received bipartisan support."
I guess. But being not as bad as the Republicans doesn't always cut it. I am happy Republicans are out, but this type of stuff does not win lasting majorities. There is no reason for this crap, especially when they know the bill is going to get vetoed (because Republicans/Bush is an insane war monger that wants to keep this war going at any cost).
By Chuck - 3/24/2007
10 Comments:
Side note: I hate all agricultural subsidies. They don't have a backup plan for a frost?
The idea that Republicans REFUSE to end this war by the end of 2008 is INSANE. If those war mongers don't put their kids over their soon, I don't know who they expect to fight/die.
thank you Chuck
Look Chuck, Bush vetoes the bill and all he accomplishes is putting the onus of the Iraq War squarely back onto himself. If he doesn't veto it, then the responsibilty will transfer to the Democrats and anyone else supporting a timed withdrawal. I doubt Bush sees it that way, but really, he's passing on a great opportunity to get out from under a lot of the heavy lifting and a chance to make this a bi-partisan solution.
Sadly a veto means the carnage will continue and we'll continue to spiral into debt.
"thank you Chuck"
a liar doesnt deserve a cookie because he is honest for once.
I love the anti-pork post.
It is about time ear-marks are getting the media attention they deserve.
Chuck, I also hate all ag subsidies.
Does that statement mean that you hate ethanol subsidies too??
ethanol is a joke as a fuel, it yields energy in a 1:1.2 input to make: usable energy, highly inefficient, sugar is far better. Unfortunately agri-business (the myth of the family farm has largely gone the way of the dinosaur) continues to leech on the public tit and benefit from subsidies that were put in place to allow for the family farmer to achieve a level of economic normalcy outside the cruel whims of that bitch, mother nature
fred, glad we can agree on something.
anon, name a lie please.
jeff, i dont like all farming subsidies, but i don't know much about about any of them individually. i am for alt fuels, but i have heard bad things about ethanol. plus, if we can get it cheaper elsewhere, we should.
Jeff, the part I am sure I will lose you is that, then we can take some of the savings on cheaper goods abroad and invest it into some new job training for these rural areas. because i don't know what else these rural area people can do, if they arent farming. maybe that is close-minded, i don't know. i just know they seem to depend on BS subsidies. well, we should look to subsidizing their education and getting them out of these crap situations, instead of keeping them farming (or not farming, in the case of some)
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