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A recent study provides strong links between cancer and an animal-based diet. I don't like to push my culinary preferences on people, but this is going beyond ethics. Eating meat can be harmful to your health!In The China Study, Dr. Campbell explains that the harmful product of meat is not the fat. It's the protein.
According to the International Journal on Cancer, "Women who received the most calories from animal protein had twice the risk of [endometrial cancer] compared to those who took in the fewest calories from animal sources."
So what seems like a good meat to eat? Chicken? Sure, it doesn't have the bulk and fullness of beef. Well, think again - about 70% of chickens in the United States are fed food with arsenic in it. Arsenic! It's used to promote growth, make your chicken an appealing color etc, and is banned in Europe. The arsenic ends up in chicken meat (and their poop, which is turned into fertilizer, which fertilizes our vegetables, and gets into the groundwater, which becomes drinking water). Luckily, some US companies are requesting that their suppliers not use arsenic anymore. That's nice of them. "According to the Environmental Protection Agency, long-term exposure to inorganic arsenic can cause bladder, lung, skin, kidney, and colon cancer, as well as deleterious immunological, neurological, and endocrine effects. Low-level exposures can lead to partial paralysis and diabetes."
Pam Anderson credits a vegetarian diet to better orgasms. If that's not a reason to switch...
By terra - 4/29/2007
24 Comments:
You do realize the study was performed in China, where they smoke all their meat and we have known for years that it causes gastric cancer right? Of course you knew that. Go look up gastric cancer statistics in China vs. the US and you will see what I mean.
Interestingly enough Terra, when I was diagnosed with cancer, my oncologist and oncology nurse urged me to eat as many steaks and milkshakes as I could keep down (not a problem).
Most things in moderation don't create health problems..
Terra,
You tend to take individual reports of some phenomenon and say that it must be the case. As someone who does cancer research, I know that this is a controversial subject. It is by no means proven. Just bc this professor from cornell believes this to be the case, does not even come close to making it so. These are epidemiological studies, which are purely correlative. It was also done in china, which differs in many things other than diet. Asian genetic makeup is different than that of westerners, which no doubt also plays a large role independent of any environmental factors. This study by no means proves or can ever prove that proteins in meat are causing cancer. Molecular studies have to be done. Furthermore, you must keep in mind that humans have been eating meat for 100,000 years. We have evolved while eating meat. If it were so detrimental to our health, we wouldn't have made it so long. Meat is an integral part of our diet. In fact, one of my best friends is pregant and a vegetarian. She is eating meat during the pregnancy bc her doctor suggested to her that it is more healthy for the development of her baby. I haven't read the book, nor do I have time, but the author of the post you cited obviously doesn't know anything about cancer. For example, a carcinogen cannot "grow and spread". I'd like to see the evidence for this.
Terra,
This is not a subject I claim to know anything about, but it's hard for me to take these types of stories too seriously. Nothing seems to be definitive.
However, I think Pamela telling the world that vegetarians have better orgasms will get people to drop meat faster than any study on arsenic levels. Maybe that's the key here. Not to focus on long-term heath risks, but to focus on some vanity/sexual benefit. For example, if someone could prove that eating meat led to male-pattern balding, or stunted penis growth you'd really get people's attention.
terra darling, if humans didn't eat meat, they wouldn't be humans. they'd be monkeys. humans who don't eat meat are just fooling themselves by taking supplements to get all the protein and what not form the lack of meat they eat.
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All, it's just one more bit of information to help people make an informed decision about what they eat. Arsenic...
Bob, I can't attest to Pam's claims, but I did notice that food tastes better, and I've heard that from other vegetarians too.
D, you don't need as much protein as you're told, and protein is in a lot more food than meat. I guarantee I get all the protein I need every day, without supplements.
Toneff, I agree that people have been eating meat for a long time. But, the way it is currently mass produced cannot possibly be as healthy as the free range meat people used to eat. If free range were the norm, I think we would see a healthier population.
Terra, everyone does not have the same protein requirements. i.e. athletes require more than a sedentary person
Terra, everyone does not have the same protein requirements. i.e.#2 web-junkies require less than a sedentary person.
I just cant kick the Yummy Bacon Habit. But I have cut my meat intake quit a bit and sometimes I eat a vegetable.
I know, My arteries probably look like a 80 yr old Cleveland sewer pipe
I definitely think different body types have different needs. If I try and go exercise without a good source of protein I feel like I am going to pass out. I don't always need meat and I often use different vegetarian friendly sources of protein. For example, I like to get a Cardio Cooler from Roebeck's.
I'd like to see the FDA's budget increased so they can offer better oversight of things like peanut butter, spinach, dog food, and how meat is produced.
I think with the recent pet food scare feed buyers are going to demand more accountability from their suppliers.
I became a vegetarian when I first began to learn about high volume hog farms and the environmental damage they were causing. I recently began eating chicken again, mainly for convenience, but that's only occasional. I still don't eat red meat of any kind.
I've found that many people are very defensive about eating meat. They take my not eating meat as a personal affront. There's also a great deal of macho bullshit about meat eating, which many men don't want to admit about themselves. You don't have to eat meat to get protein, guys. And frankly many guys buy into the body image stereotypes about being big and bulky, and eating large quantities of meat to get there, as women are vulnerable to expectations of being ultra thin. So I see the meat eating of men and the weight anxiety of women as being two sides of the body image coin. At some point people need to get real about health and nutrition issues and really examine the gender role stereotypes that feed (no pun intended) into how they eat.
Thanks, OhDave. I find it funny how offended people get, too. And then they start saying all the meat they don't eat. When they find out I'm a vegetarian, they say "I don't eat much meat either... just chicken, fish, ham, and beef every day." It's really funny.
My problem is how mass-produced the industry has gotten. Those animals are not healthy, so they're pumped full of all kinds of drugs, which gets passed onto people.
I would have no problems eating a human
t-dawg,
If I was in a plane crash like the one in that movie Alive!. I'd be the first to suggest it.
Macho shit about meat eating? Christ who are you hanging out with... cannibals?
I thought the same thing-Nothing screams macho like deep throating a kielbasa-give me a break, now helping a sheep over a fence is not only chivalrous but also macho.
I believe that the China Study simply confirms what we have known for decades. We know animal based diets are dangerous and we intuitively know to eat vegan. Read "The RAVE Diet and Life style" and watch the DVD "Eating in the back. It will make you a vegan unless you are just plain crazy.
We know exactly how to end our health care problems and stop the transfer of wealth in this country to the lawyers, MD's and big pharma it is called "be vegan"
I am sure you have done extensive research into human nutrition and areeminently qualified to make such edicts after reaing one whole book
I love militant vegans-being omnivorous has always been a plot by the doctors and lawyers to get rich-yeah ok genius.
Oh don't forget to atch that one dvd too, then you can consider yourself a fully informed educated person.
stick to your diet, good for you ,but save he bullshit conspiracy theories for the x-files
vegans are not human beings. you need to understand humans are designed to eat meat. all that yummy protien made are brain larger so we could become what we are today. if i didn't eat meat i wouldn't be able to do anything all day. i would have to drink coffee or some other stimulant to keep going. china study says its bad to eqt meat???? ya, if it's mcdonalds cheeseburgers everyday. if you have a low fat high protien diet, you will be in much better shape and feel much better everyday
I bet none of these "protein police" know how much protein they should have, or how much they do have in a day. I could far exceed their protein intake, not eating a bite of meat. Protein comes from more than animal sources.
The point of this post wasn't to convert, but to educate. If you're going to eat something, you should know what it's made of.
Speaking of brains, anon, a recent British study found that people with higher IQ's turned out to be vegetarians later in life.
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