Oct 17 - 46/45 - McCain +01
Please Explain To Me How She Can Win
Think about this:
It is clear that Senator Clinton's path to the nomination is becoming less and less likely. The role she will likely play is prolonging the process as is detailed in Rush Limbaugh's daily discussions of Operation Chaos. I'd like to hear from supporters of Senator Clinton on this site what scenario could play out that would lead to her being the nominee when you take Michigan and Florida out of the picture?
NYT's Adam Nagourney: "Without new votes in Florida and Michigan, it will be that much more difficult for Mrs. Clinton to achieve a majority in the total popular vote in the primary season, narrow Mr. Obama's lead among pledged delegates or build a new wave of momentum."
It is clear that Senator Clinton's path to the nomination is becoming less and less likely. The role she will likely play is prolonging the process as is detailed in Rush Limbaugh's daily discussions of Operation Chaos. I'd like to hear from supporters of Senator Clinton on this site what scenario could play out that would lead to her being the nominee when you take Michigan and Florida out of the picture?
By Kyle - 3/20/2008
17 Comments:
Though I support Obama, I'm honestly willing to listen to a plausible scenario where she can become the party's nominee.
Not an actual response to this (sorry Kyle) but just a snapshot of where the latest polls are going on the HRC/BHO race:
Clinton takes lead over Obama in Gallup poll
What is her motivation at this point? Is it pure ego or lust for power - does she really believe Obama would be that bad?
That is the interesting question to me.....
Tim - this is her only shot (albeit an incredibly long shot at this point), so I imagine she is praying for a miracle at this point and just plugging along. She will be too old to run again in 8 years and definitely won't be any better positioned to win a race at this point. So I have to figure she thinks she has nothing to lose by sticking it out in the race and hoping for that last second miracle.
Few people ever get as close to the presidency as Hillary is now. I imagine being this close, even if it is just out of reach is pretty intoxicating.
She'll kick Obama's ass in PA. That's a fact. Not sure if it helps her mathematically...
She can win.
1.) Corruption welled up during Wild Bill's Admin twists "superdelegates" arms
2.) She cons all the women voters
3.) the "fix" comes in from the same forces that fixed it for Bush
4.)Hillary "sees the light" and God sweeps her into the Whitehouse
5.) Obama picks up some more zinger references such as Reverend Hatred
Sure, its easy.
Watch Obama continue to slide in polls, let questions continue to be raised about his electability. Democrats want to win too, and if they think she is their better chance, they will go with her at the convention. It isnt that far fetched as you think it is.
What a suprise, the Hillary supporters, for the zillionth time are silent when asked to answer a question.
Mabye if your question was about 90210 it would get answered.
yes, because we are all serious all the time, right?
god forbid if we stray from the well beaten, tired, and ad nauseum election coverage and...gasp...talk about something light hearted!
for shame annie!
for shame!
how could you....
I agree with the comments about the closeness for Hillary. It would be tough to work that hard at anything and not get there.
Mike D., remember, they dusted off John McCain 8 years later and threw him back in. I think this race, regardless of outcome, has made Hillary a real leader in the Democratic Party. I would like her to replace Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader. If not Hillary, than anybody else.
/all right.....so....it's
not about her ''winining'' at this point, but rather doing what would be in the best interest of the country and the party. She needs to either accept Obama's invitation to be # 2.....or bow out gracefully. Yeah...yeah...in 'a perfect world' scenerio, that might actually happen, but her ego is greater than her husbands. Not gonna happen !!
Sorry, I was busy painting my fingernails and watching Dynasty re-runs and couldn't come to the computer.
Of course Hillary can still win. Several a poll have come out this week that show her advantage over McCain while Obama falters in the same match up. Many Democrats just want to win and are willing to vote for her to achieve that win in November.
Also, as I've mentioned several times here before, Hillary has no skeletons, but we have no idea what is in Obama's past because he's never really been put to the test before; as these things come out one by one it could chip away at his electability more and more.
Florida and Michigan, should they ever actually decide what the hell is going on here, they will both go for HRC. Dean is the real loser here.
Superdelegates, although "pledged" may change their minds at any time and I believe they will go for Clinton in the end.
Annie I appreciate your new voice to this blog, and find your lighter posts to be entertaining, despite some who feel that the only thing that should be posted on this blog is cult like worship and Lebron bashing.
Anyways I agree that Hillary can win, and I believe that when you count Fla & Michigan, Hillary leads in popular vote. Now I realize that Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan, but assuming a 50/50 split, which is generous to Obama considering how a similar state broke much more sharply for Hillary, & this is pre-Rev Wright, and some other poorly worded statements from Obama himself. She would still lead the popular vote. The next key point is that Obama's domestic policy is all supported by a greater tax burden, as the economy continues to worsen, no candidate will get elected by preaching paying more to the govt. His healthcare proposal has zero chance of being fully funded by a rollback of the Bush tax cuts.
Also, despite the Obama worshipers he is losing battleground states, and that has to matter. Hillary is the best candidate and Obama is continuing to falter and alienate voters--(hat tip to Keeler report for highlighting a recent gaffe)
Hillary is tracking better against McCain as Annie pointed out, and I don't think his speech (although ecellent) will fully assuage the backlash he received from this
Kyle-love the new posters and tone, Kevins posts have been thoughtful & a great new spin, the other new contributors have been good as well, congrats on your blog moving forward and getting better
If any democratic candidate cant beat McCain it is time to disband your party
annie, this is my last time i ever plan on making a negative comment to you....
it is really odd how you get all pissy with Bob in the past for insinuating he was sexist for saying you added a female perspective to the site, but then you do clearly feminine posts.
The posts are fine, but WTF is with the sarcasm like we are so bad for pointing out you bring posts that
You cannot have it both ways. You cannot sit there and get all high and mighty when someone points out you speak from a feminine perspective, but then go and do overtly "girly" posts.
Among many of the reasons, Bob could never recover from that BS about insinuating he was sexist when he COMPLIMENTED the additional perspective you gave to the site. I cannot blame him.
And this site suffered a great loss from that crap.
what the fuck are you talking about you fat slob-Annie didn't write this post, it is not feminine, and despite you and Bob's crying, people are talking about how Hillary can win-as long as you aren't in here calling everyone sick or racist--god go away you are awful
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